"MegaSuper" (megasuper)
04/26/2015 at 07:35 • Filed to: None
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"MegaSuper" (megasuper)
04/26/2015 at 07:35 • Filed to: None | 1
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Correct me if my understanding is wrong on some of these points…
So in various countries across the world now, companies are required to have an average MPG/C02/L per 100KM figure across all vehicles produced.
As far as I know, the PARENT company bears the responsibility for this. So in other words, Lamborghini, Bentley, Bugatti, Porsche Rolls-Royce, etc don’t have to worry because they’re owned by another, less exotic company. So it doesn’t matter if Lamborghini continues to make a few thousand V10/V12 cars per year, because Volkswagen can just crank out hundreds of thousands of UP!s, Polos, Jettas, etc.
But what about companies that don’t have that?
So in McLaren’s case, will they have to build a performance hatchback or something? Or is the electric-drive in the P1 enough/the fact that their less expensive models are rather efficient for supercars?
Ferrari, I’m not quite clear what happened to them regarding their ownership and FIAT recently…did only a portion of the company’s shares get made public? Are they now independent? Are they still owned by FIAT? If they are independent, what’s next? Is the electric-drive in LaFerrari + California now being turbocharged + forthcoming V8 in the FF enough?
I guess I should also mention Aston Martin because their parent company does not produce automobiles, correct? I read on here that the DB9 replacement will have the Mercedes-AMG GT powerplant (not sure if that’s the sole powerplant or not), so maybe that’s already met.
It’ll be interesting to see how these companies contend with the new legislation. Each may pursue a different philosophy; downsizing+forced induction, “just add lightness,” hybrid powertrains, maybe some transmission tricks (does that new Koenigsegg “direct drive” transmission help fuel economy in any way”)
Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
> MegaSuper
04/26/2015 at 07:45 |
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Probably do what Aston did with the Cygnet. Or maybe develop an all electric version of their sports cars. I’m not sure of the specifics of the rule though, maybe really low volume companies aren’t affected.
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MegaSuper
> Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
04/26/2015 at 08:00 |
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Yes, I forgot to mention the Cygnet; given its purpose though, why do you reckon they ended production last year?
I have read rumours that the next Rapide will be electric, so you may be on the right track.
LongbowMkII
> MegaSuper
04/26/2015 at 08:15 |
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Ferrari is still 90% owned by FCA. They should be alright.
djmt1
> MegaSuper
04/26/2015 at 08:22 |
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Ferrari are fine since they are still apart of Fiat as for McLaren their cars easily meet emission standards already. EU legislation is pretty much the strictest around so if they can deal with it there they can deal with it anywhere.
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Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
> MegaSuper
04/26/2015 at 08:28 |
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“The Cygnet was cancelled due to disastrously low sales, with the car reaching only 150 units in the UK rather than its annual target of 4000.” I guess that’s why...
An all electric Rapide might do fairly well.
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Myself
> MegaSuper
04/26/2015 at 09:47 |
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Ferrari is being spun-off by fiat to its owners.ferrari will then be an independent company controlled by the agnelli and ferrari families together.
ferrari, mclaren and aston build a lot less cars than vw or toyota so they will have a low-volume exception.they still have to reduce emissions, but not by much.
boxrocket
> MegaSuper
04/26/2015 at 10:29 |
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I believe McLaren's vehicles already meet or exceed current emissions and fuel-consumption standards, though I know in Yurrup they keep tightening them more and more.
Anon
> Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
04/26/2015 at 12:10 |
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Maybe I should buy one, they might be collectors items in 20 years or so!
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Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
> Anon
04/26/2015 at 12:13 |
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Possibly, they’re worth a good chunk of change at the moment. An equivalent iQ would be half that. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/adv…
Saf1
> Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
05/05/2015 at 16:41 |
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Wow, they thought they were gonna sell 4000 of their double markup iQs...